How the printing quote scam (doesn’t) work

by +Mike Poller If you’ve received a scammer email, please enter it in the comments below so other printers may find it with a Google search, and avoid being ripped off… Don’t fall for printing, banners, t-shirts, plaques and awards fake order scams… This is how they work:

  1. You receive an unsolicited e-mail quote request.
  2. You respond with a quotation or ask for more information.
  3. Your quote will be accepted, immediately, no questions asked. They will supply you with credit card billing info.
  4. An “emergency” will come up and you will be asked to prepare the job for delivery to somewhere far, far away. I was asked to ship a supposed order to Sweden this morning.
  5. They provide a “recommended shipping company” contact email for you to get shipping costs. Typically a gmail, hotmail or yahoo email address.
  6. Shipping company quotes some huge sum. You are asked to charge the shipping, taxes and printing/product charges under one bill to a credit card.
  7. You go ahead and charge everything to the credit card.
  8. You are asked to pre-pay the shipping by Western Union Money Order upon pick-up by the shipper.
  9. Days later, the credit card is charged back to you. You are out whatever it cost you for the printing/product, your time and whatever you paid the shipper. The shipping company is bogus and is no doubt keeping some scammer drunk, fat and happy.
  10. Giveaways: The scammer never mentioned any artwork, just accepted my quote and asked me to proceed. Like that’s gonna happen… Religious messages, signing as Reverend or Minister and church-related jobs seem to be common in this type of scam.

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• If you’ve got a scammer email, enter it in the comments so other printers may find it with a Google search… And please, feel free to pass around this link and “Like” this post (below) so other printers become aware and we can put these scammers out of business. Here’s a short URL to use on Twitter http://bit.ly/10nyhKL

• Don’t use your real email account when replying to scammers.

What to do about this?
Report these scammers to their email providers. Most email providers, including Gmail, urge you to report suspicious emails and scams. Reporting a suspicious message will help block that user from sending more emails and help stop future scams. Forward the scam email to abuse@gmail.com with full headers displayed.

Link to report for Yahoo mail

February 2013 update: It appears that 891 Davis Street in San Francisco is a parking lot

printer scam flyer artwork

Printer scam flyer looks like this

And this is the flyer artwork they will send you if it gets that far… It will be a low-res PDF file.

July 6, 2010 update: Well, well, well… the scammers are out in force. Just received an email from the actual person at the Bentley Drive address in Warrington, PA 18976. They are, needless to say, rightfully incensed about the use of their address. Please be advised the people in Warrington have nothing to do with this scam and have referred the matter to their local police department.

Scammer name: Rev. James Mallons, 210 Sterilin Avenue, Osborne, Sweden
Scammer email: jmallons@gmail.com
Scammer bogus shipper email: smartshippingline@gmail.com



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485 Responses to How the printing quote scam (doesn’t) work

  1. Nancy says:

    9/23/2014 We received the exact same message yesterday. I knew it sounded suspicious. Thank you for having this forum to discuss items of this nature. Below I have pasted the body of the email we received:

    zachmuhr60@gmail.com
    Good day,

    My name is Zach Muhr and i want to make a inquiry of some
    Banner,the type of banner i will like from you is vinyl and the size i
    want is 32″x60″ with grommet on the banner.I want this Message on the
    banner is (Give & It Shall be Given Unto You).Kindly get me some price
    for a Quantity of 100 banners and please advise me the Payment method
    you do accept and also how long will it take you before getting me
    those banners for pickup to be Schedule.Please advice to my email as
    soon as you received this email.Thank You Very Much.

    Thank You.
    Mr.Zach Muh

  2. Terri Tinsley says:

    Just got this this morning:

    Dear Customer Service
    My name is Tim William ,am with William And Sons Lnt and i will to order Galvanized Sheets with the following specs.

    24 X 36
    16-gauge
    Quantity:300
    Galv Sheet Blanks Plain Galv Blanks (609x 914) 1.5mm thick

    I will like you to send me an email response with the price for this sizes and if you don’t have this size or type available email me with the sizes you have available. Kindly respond to me as soon as possible for us to proceed further with the order.

    Thank You.
    Tim William
    William And Sons Lnt

  3. Douglas in Seattle says:

    Received this email today;

    Dear Customer Service
    My name is Tim William ,am with William And Sons Lnt and i will to order Galvanized Sheets with the following specs.

    24 X 36
    16-gauge
    Quantity:300
    Galv Sheet Blanks Plain Galv Blanks (609x 914) 1.5mm thick

    I will like you to send me an email response with the price for this sizes and if you don’t have this size or type available email me with the sizes you have available. Kindly respond to me as soon as possible for us to proceed further with the order.

    Thank You.
    Tim William
    William And Sons Lnt

  4. Harry Wynbrandt says:

    Well, I’m certainly glad for sites just like this. I did receive the scam email from Tim William AKA William & Son, looking for 300pcs of 16 gage galvanized 48×36. Just as written above, he agreed with no questions on the price and would pay CIA “since I don’t have established credit with your company” he then gave me his “preferred carrier” as the material was going to be delivered to “The church of god” in Norway. Knowing that credit card charges can be reversed and feeling suspicious about his eagerness I decided to Google William & Sons and found the above. We did in fact run his credit card and had the money but had not started the order yet. We quickly reversed the payment back to his card and informed Mr. Tim William that his order was not going to be processed.

  5. Eva M. Frye says:

    I received this email this morning. 9-3-2014
    Dear Customer Service
    My name is Tim William ,am with William And Sons Lnt and i will to order Galvanized Sheets with the following specs.

    24 X 36
    16-gauge
    Quantity:300
    Galv Sheet Blanks Plain Galv Blanks (609x 914) 1.5mm thick

    I will like you to send me an email response with the price for this sizes and if you don’t have this size or type available email me with the sizes you have available. Kindly respond to me as soon as possible for us to proceed further with the order.

    Thank You.
    Tim William
    William And Sons Lnt

  6. The below is an email from our website contact form. I received this august 25, 2014…
    _____________________________
    To: Webmaster

    From:
    Zach Muhr
    zachmuhr60@gmail.com

    Telephone
    713.555.1212

    Message:
    Good day,

    My name is Zach Muhr and i want to make a inquiry of some Banner,the type of banner i will like from you is vinyl and the size i want is 32″x60″ with grommet on the banner.I want this Message on the banner is (Give & It Shall be Given Unto You).Kindly get me some price for a Quantity of 100 banners and please advise me the Payment method you do accept and also how long will it take you before getting me those banners for pickup to be Schedule.Please advice to my email as soon as you received this email.Thank You Very Much.

    Thank You.
    Mr.Zach Muhr

  7. Travis says:

    This is the message I received on 8/19:

    Dear Customer Service
    My name is Tim William ,am with William And Sons Lnt and i will to order Galvanized Sheets with the following specs.

    24 X 36
    16-gauge
    Quantity:300
    Galv Sheet Blanks Plain Galv Blanks (609x 914) 1.5mm thick

    I will like you to send me an email response with the price for this sizes and if you don’t have this size or type available email me with the sizes you have available. Kindly respond to me as soon as possible for us to proceed further with the order.

    Thank You.
    Tim William
    William And Sons Lnt
    williamandsonslnt1@gmail.com

  8. Sadie says:

    EMAIL ADDRESS THIS WAS SENT FROM: williamsandsonslnt1@gmail.com

    Dear Customer Service
    My name is Tim William ,am with William And Sons Lnt and i will to order Galvanized Sheets with the following specs.

    24 X 36
    16-gauge
    Quantity:300
    Galv Sheet Blanks Plain Galv Blanks (609x 914) 1.5mm thick

    I will like you to send me an email response with the price for this sizes and if you don’t have this size or type available email me with the sizes you have available. Kindly respond to me as soon as possible for us to proceed further with the order.

    Thank You.
    Tim William
    William And Sons Lnt

  9. Joe 'A. says:

    received exact same message as above regarding the shower doors.

  10. Administrator says:

    Received this (scam) request for quote 7/21/2014

    Dear Customer Service,
    My name is Tim William ,am with William And Sons Lnt and i contact to make an inquires of Shower door Units with the following specs.

    60″ width x 74″ height.
    3/8 clear glass sliding
    bi-pass brushed nickel frame finish

    I will like you to send me an email response with the custom ordered unit price for this sizes and if you cant do this size or type kindly email me with the custom made you have available. Kindly respond to me as soon as possible for us to proceed further with the order.

    Tim William
    William And Sons Lnt

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