How the printing quote scam (doesn’t) work

by +Mike Poller If you’ve received a scammer email, please enter it in the comments below so other printers may find it with a Google search, and avoid being ripped off… Don’t fall for printing, banners, t-shirts, plaques and awards fake order scams… This is how they work:

  1. You receive an unsolicited e-mail quote request.
  2. You respond with a quotation or ask for more information.
  3. Your quote will be accepted, immediately, no questions asked. They will supply you with credit card billing info.
  4. An “emergency” will come up and you will be asked to prepare the job for delivery to somewhere far, far away. I was asked to ship a supposed order to Sweden this morning.
  5. They provide a “recommended shipping company” contact email for you to get shipping costs. Typically a gmail, hotmail or yahoo email address.
  6. Shipping company quotes some huge sum. You are asked to charge the shipping, taxes and printing/product charges under one bill to a credit card.
  7. You go ahead and charge everything to the credit card.
  8. You are asked to pre-pay the shipping by Western Union Money Order upon pick-up by the shipper.
  9. Days later, the credit card is charged back to you. You are out whatever it cost you for the printing/product, your time and whatever you paid the shipper. The shipping company is bogus and is no doubt keeping some scammer drunk, fat and happy.
  10. Giveaways: The scammer never mentioned any artwork, just accepted my quote and asked me to proceed. Like that’s gonna happen… Religious messages, signing as Reverend or Minister and church-related jobs seem to be common in this type of scam.

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• If you’ve got a scammer email, enter it in the comments so other printers may find it with a Google search… And please, feel free to pass around this link and “Like” this post (below) so other printers become aware and we can put these scammers out of business. Here’s a short URL to use on Twitter http://bit.ly/10nyhKL

• Don’t use your real email account when replying to scammers.

What to do about this?
Report these scammers to their email providers. Most email providers, including Gmail, urge you to report suspicious emails and scams. Reporting a suspicious message will help block that user from sending more emails and help stop future scams. Forward the scam email to abuse@gmail.com with full headers displayed.

Link to report for Yahoo mail

February 2013 update: It appears that 891 Davis Street in San Francisco is a parking lot

printer scam flyer artwork

Printer scam flyer looks like this

And this is the flyer artwork they will send you if it gets that far… It will be a low-res PDF file.

July 6, 2010 update: Well, well, well… the scammers are out in force. Just received an email from the actual person at the Bentley Drive address in Warrington, PA 18976. They are, needless to say, rightfully incensed about the use of their address. Please be advised the people in Warrington have nothing to do with this scam and have referred the matter to their local police department.

Scammer name: Rev. James Mallons, 210 Sterilin Avenue, Osborne, Sweden
Scammer email: jmallons@gmail.com
Scammer bogus shipper email: smartshippingline@gmail.com



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492 Responses to How the printing quote scam (doesn’t) work

  1. Alex says:

    Received this (Scam) request for quote 11/16/14

    Good Day,
    Can please provide quote on 60,000 copies of the flyer printing
    with the following specs.

    1. measures 8..5′ x 11′
    2. 80# Gloss Text
    3. 0.25 – White boarder
    4. One sided
    5.Full color
    6. what method of payment do you accept.
    7.It should be flat

    With Kind Regards,
    John Larry

    john.larrry51@gmail.com

  2. Copyland says:

    Just received the following email from john.larrry51@gmail.com.

    Good Day,
    Can please provide quote on 60,000 copies of the flyer printing
    with the following specs.

    1. measures 8..5′ x 11′
    2. 80# Gloss Text
    3. 0.25 – White boarder
    4. One sided
    5.Full color
    6. what method of payment do you accept.
    7.It should be flat

    With Kind Regards,
    John Larry

  3. Aaron says:

    Scammer Email: john.larrry51@gmail.com

    Good Day,
    Can please provide quote on 60,000 copies of the flyer printing
    with the following specs.

    1. measures 8..5′ x 11′
    2. 80# Gloss Text
    3. 0.25 – White boarder
    4. One sided
    5.Full color
    6. what method of payment do you accept.
    7.It should be flat

    With Kind Regards,
    John Larry

    341 Don Gaspar,
    Suite 300 . Santa Fe ,
    NM 87503 .
    PH: 305-907-9832
    Fax:818-235-5597

  4. Hello Owner/General Manager,

    How are you doing? My name is Kim Richard, I’m sending you this mail because i will be needing your service. I have a seminar coming up  on 21th of November by 3pm.I hope you do screen printing on T-shirts and accept all major credit cards as method of payment! if yes, I have some T-shirts I need you to do Screen Printing on T-shirts. there are a total of 35dozens of T-shirts, all white in color, and i’ll like to put at the front of the T-shirts (ARISE AND SHINE), you move down lower and put (ISAIAH 60:1)

    I need a perfect job on the T-shirts. the total of the T-shirts are 420pcs, sizes are M=74cm 140pcs, XL=78cm 140pcs and XXL=80cm 140pcs.

    I will have a private carrier that will have the T-shirts delivered to your shop so you can start the work on them as soon as possible. so kindly get back to me with the requested information below..

    Full Name:

    Shop Address:

    Cell phone and Business phone number:

    Types of credit card you accept:

    Total cost of your service:

    Thanks

    Best regards

    Rev. Richard

  5. RA BROWN says:

    This actually came across the fax machine and says. “Hello my name is Paul Morgan. I would like to know if you have in stock NGK spark plug 7090 BKR5EGP. If you have it in stock or you can help to special order it kindly get back to me with the cost of 1000 plugs while I will forward mt credit card information to you and send FedEx for the pick up. kindly get back to me via my email at paulautopart776@gmail.com, I will be looking forward to your response. Thanks Paul Morgan. I get theses all the time from different people for the same thing. Just usually throw them away but was bored today and thought I would look up the email account to see who else got these things. I just laugh at them.

  6. Printer says:

    Received this (scam) request for quote 19/10/2014

    From: richard.johnson020@gmail.com [mailto:richard.johnson020@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Paul Berry
    Sent: 19 October 2014 21:49
    To: undisclosed-recipients:
    Subject: Printing Of Flyers….

    Good Day,
    Can please provide quote on 60,000 copies of the flyer printing
    with the following specs.

    1. measures 8..5′ x 11′
    2. 80# Gloss Text
    3. 0.25 – White boarder
    4. One sided
    5.Full color
    6. what method of payment do you accept.
    7.It should be flat

    With Kind Regards,
    Paul Berry

  7. Don B says:

    Just got this scam email.

    Hello Sir/Madam
    My name is Frank Lukas and I do understand that you handle some Pumps in stock for sale. I will like to see the Model that you have and prices range On each. I will also like to know if Credit Card is accepted as a form of payment. Thank you

    Best Regards
    Frank Lukas
    Pumps Needed……

  8. Nancy says:

    9/23/2014 We received the exact same message yesterday. I knew it sounded suspicious. Thank you for having this forum to discuss items of this nature. Below I have pasted the body of the email we received:

    zachmuhr60@gmail.com
    Good day,

    My name is Zach Muhr and i want to make a inquiry of some
    Banner,the type of banner i will like from you is vinyl and the size i
    want is 32″x60″ with grommet on the banner.I want this Message on the
    banner is (Give & It Shall be Given Unto You).Kindly get me some price
    for a Quantity of 100 banners and please advise me the Payment method
    you do accept and also how long will it take you before getting me
    those banners for pickup to be Schedule.Please advice to my email as
    soon as you received this email.Thank You Very Much.

    Thank You.
    Mr.Zach Muh

  9. Terri Tinsley says:

    Just got this this morning:

    Dear Customer Service
    My name is Tim William ,am with William And Sons Lnt and i will to order Galvanized Sheets with the following specs.

    24 X 36
    16-gauge
    Quantity:300
    Galv Sheet Blanks Plain Galv Blanks (609x 914) 1.5mm thick

    I will like you to send me an email response with the price for this sizes and if you don’t have this size or type available email me with the sizes you have available. Kindly respond to me as soon as possible for us to proceed further with the order.

    Thank You.
    Tim William
    William And Sons Lnt

  10. Douglas in Seattle says:

    Received this email today;

    Dear Customer Service
    My name is Tim William ,am with William And Sons Lnt and i will to order Galvanized Sheets with the following specs.

    24 X 36
    16-gauge
    Quantity:300
    Galv Sheet Blanks Plain Galv Blanks (609x 914) 1.5mm thick

    I will like you to send me an email response with the price for this sizes and if you don’t have this size or type available email me with the sizes you have available. Kindly respond to me as soon as possible for us to proceed further with the order.

    Thank You.
    Tim William
    William And Sons Lnt

  11. Harry Wynbrandt says:

    Well, I’m certainly glad for sites just like this. I did receive the scam email from Tim William AKA William & Son, looking for 300pcs of 16 gage galvanized 48×36. Just as written above, he agreed with no questions on the price and would pay CIA “since I don’t have established credit with your company” he then gave me his “preferred carrier” as the material was going to be delivered to “The church of god” in Norway. Knowing that credit card charges can be reversed and feeling suspicious about his eagerness I decided to Google William & Sons and found the above. We did in fact run his credit card and had the money but had not started the order yet. We quickly reversed the payment back to his card and informed Mr. Tim William that his order was not going to be processed.

  12. Eva M. Frye says:

    I received this email this morning. 9-3-2014
    Dear Customer Service
    My name is Tim William ,am with William And Sons Lnt and i will to order Galvanized Sheets with the following specs.

    24 X 36
    16-gauge
    Quantity:300
    Galv Sheet Blanks Plain Galv Blanks (609x 914) 1.5mm thick

    I will like you to send me an email response with the price for this sizes and if you don’t have this size or type available email me with the sizes you have available. Kindly respond to me as soon as possible for us to proceed further with the order.

    Thank You.
    Tim William
    William And Sons Lnt

  13. The below is an email from our website contact form. I received this august 25, 2014…
    _____________________________
    To: Webmaster

    From:
    Zach Muhr
    zachmuhr60@gmail.com

    Telephone
    713.555.1212

    Message:
    Good day,

    My name is Zach Muhr and i want to make a inquiry of some Banner,the type of banner i will like from you is vinyl and the size i want is 32″x60″ with grommet on the banner.I want this Message on the banner is (Give & It Shall be Given Unto You).Kindly get me some price for a Quantity of 100 banners and please advise me the Payment method you do accept and also how long will it take you before getting me those banners for pickup to be Schedule.Please advice to my email as soon as you received this email.Thank You Very Much.

    Thank You.
    Mr.Zach Muhr

  14. Travis says:

    This is the message I received on 8/19:

    Dear Customer Service
    My name is Tim William ,am with William And Sons Lnt and i will to order Galvanized Sheets with the following specs.

    24 X 36
    16-gauge
    Quantity:300
    Galv Sheet Blanks Plain Galv Blanks (609x 914) 1.5mm thick

    I will like you to send me an email response with the price for this sizes and if you don’t have this size or type available email me with the sizes you have available. Kindly respond to me as soon as possible for us to proceed further with the order.

    Thank You.
    Tim William
    William And Sons Lnt
    williamandsonslnt1@gmail.com

  15. Sadie says:

    EMAIL ADDRESS THIS WAS SENT FROM: williamsandsonslnt1@gmail.com

    Dear Customer Service
    My name is Tim William ,am with William And Sons Lnt and i will to order Galvanized Sheets with the following specs.

    24 X 36
    16-gauge
    Quantity:300
    Galv Sheet Blanks Plain Galv Blanks (609x 914) 1.5mm thick

    I will like you to send me an email response with the price for this sizes and if you don’t have this size or type available email me with the sizes you have available. Kindly respond to me as soon as possible for us to proceed further with the order.

    Thank You.
    Tim William
    William And Sons Lnt

  16. Joe 'A. says:

    received exact same message as above regarding the shower doors.

  17. Administrator says:

    Received this (scam) request for quote 7/21/2014

    Dear Customer Service,
    My name is Tim William ,am with William And Sons Lnt and i contact to make an inquires of Shower door Units with the following specs.

    60″ width x 74″ height.
    3/8 clear glass sliding
    bi-pass brushed nickel frame finish

    I will like you to send me an email response with the custom ordered unit price for this sizes and if you cant do this size or type kindly email me with the custom made you have available. Kindly respond to me as soon as possible for us to proceed further with the order.

    Tim William
    William And Sons Lnt

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